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Originally Posted by Peyton's Princess
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This is the OP. Nowhere in this entire thread did I ever DEMAND someone to fix my mirror for $20. I made this thread to figure out what the etiquette was at a body shop.
As for hiring Mexican's to do cheap labor on my car...
It's a ****ing side mirror. It's not the god damn engine. The car is 10 years old with 211,000 miles on it...I was in Dallas last year and it hailed softball size hail and left, presumably, thousands of dollars in hail damage (liability only, wish I had full coverage so I could've cashed in on that insurance check when they inevitably would have totalled out my car)...
do you really think I give a god damn **** if a Mexican has a screw driver slip when he's installing the mirror?
I mean, you guys are acting like I need a new transmission. I'm getting a side mirror put on...my ****ing God. I didn't ask for any life lessons about how 'mom and pop' body shops have to jack up the prices to stay in business...I don't give a ****.
I really don't. When something goes wrong with the car that makes me think 'oh shit', I take it to the Audi dealership and pay 40 billion dollars to get everything fixed...it was a free car, but I knew it was going to cost me an arm and a leg every time something broke down since it's an Audi...
but a side mirror? Christ. I'm sorry that these Mexican side mirror installers who charge realistic amounts of $ for work take your jerbs...
it's not my fault they are reasonable and not ****ing crooks...
I am willing to pay $20 for this side mirror install...I'm not even going to bother asking this shop what they will charge for it after this thread. I will simply do it myself, get help from my roommate, take it to my friend's junkyard and have him do it like he said he would, or hire a damn mexican. $20 is the going rate for this simple job. I'll jab a screwdriver into the paint once the Mexican is done doing it to make everyone feel better as well.
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You sit here and say you didn't expect it, but you call it unreasonable and call them crooks for not doing it for 20 dollars or less.
You still do not UNDERSTAND the point everyone is driving across to you. This is a business, not a charity, kid. You might have a shitty car you don't appreciate, knowing that it'll cost a ton to fix later on, but in the eyes of a mechanic, your car is just like the next Mercedes that pulls up. Its going to cost you the same labor hour that it'll cost on the Mercedes. Why in the actual **** would you ever assume that the state of your car has anything to do with how much I'm going to charge you?
Which brings me to my second point.
Labor Hour. If you don't understand what Labor Hour is, or what it means, you shouldn't be dictating price.
Simply put, Labor Hour is what I'm going to charge you PER HOUR to fix your car. IT doesn't stop there though, because I'm probably going to pull up something like Mitchell or Alldata to find out how long it is going to take me to fix it, when you come in and ask for a quote, and I'm probably going to mark up the base labor hour by 10-25% on top of that.
Why? Because its going to cost me 400+ per day to have this building with these tools, with these employees, with the insurance to cover all of them, just to be in business. I have to make my money somewhere, and where I make it is labor hour, and parts.
Since you are bringing in a part I can't mark up, I ONLY make money on the labor hour, where I'm less likely to discount you on.
If you don't like the costs associated with running a business and having work done by professionals, use your mexicans, but understand there is nothing Constitutional or Patriotic about what you are doing, and you are only hurting the economy because you are a cheap ****.
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Originally Posted by Peyton's Princess
house is the same thing as a passenger side mirror on a 2002 car
I'm lazy and refuse to do any sort of manual labor. My hands are far too nice to break a nail doing something like that...
Mexican labor is great for these instances...they charge fair price, they don't need entitlement money like 'the overworked' working American man!!!
"oh that 5 minute side mirror job!? That'll cost an hour of labor + shop time + you didn't buy the part here which is a 50% cost penalty plus a 1 time surcharge of $93.95"
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Kobe!
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And this is why you're a moron. Entitled? No. Lawful and helpful to the economy? Yes.
You say reasonable to a Mexican for 20 bucks, I see liability, economic downturn, and a cheapskate.
You're all full of negativity but understand this, when they **** up something on your car, you have no ability to go after them for damages, and they won't be paying you back for their mistakes. If you did it at my shop, you'd be taken care of because you get what you pay for, and with a business, by law, I'm supposed to take care of you if I **** up.
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Originally Posted by mikeyis4dcats.
we're speaking in general terms.
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This. But, as I've said, labor hour is labor hour. It doesn't go up or down depending on the condition of the car being worked on.