View Single Post
Old 03-19-2013, 10:37 AM   #14
Amnorix Amnorix is offline
In BB I trust
 
Amnorix's Avatar
 

Join Date: May 2003
Location: Boston, Mass.
Casino cash: $12099
Quote:
Originally Posted by patteeu View Post
The fact that it led to the election of Barack Obama and that he squandered much of what had been gained, gives me pause, but I voted yes anyway.
It is inevitable, of course, that you would blame Obama for "losing" Iraq, but it's really only NeoCon arrogance that we can rebuild countries in our image that led to making the mistake that we were going to "win" (in the way that you mean) there to begin with.

Quote:
The choice isn't between what we have now and the peace and prosperity we enjoyed before 9/11. It's between what we have now and what we would have faced if we had left Saddam in power in a post-9/11 world. By now, sanctions would have long since crumbled leaving Saddam the room he needed to refocus on his WMD programs and his destabilization efforts in the region. And with his vendetta against the US, we have every reason to believe he would have provided aid and comfort to our Islamist enemies when and where he could.

Instead, we have an Iraq that is increasingly looking to Iran (our main Islamist enemy in the region). Long term, that was probably inevitable given the democraphics of the country, once we toppled the existing dictatorship. Don't think there was a way to win there. Never was. We just chose the bloodiest, most expensive way to lose.

All that can really be said in favor of the move is that we at least tried to do something to switch Iraq's allegiances. Doing nothing wasn't going to give us that result. Fumbling the post-war rebuilding so badly and the demographics of the country doomed any chance of success, however.
__________________
"I love signature blocks on the Internet. I get to put whatever the hell I want in quotes, pick a pretend author, and bang, it's like he really said it." George Washington
Posts: 33,977
Amnorix has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.Amnorix has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.Amnorix has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.Amnorix has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.Amnorix has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.Amnorix has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.Amnorix has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.Amnorix has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.Amnorix has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.Amnorix has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.Amnorix has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.
  Reply With Quote