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Old 03-20-2013, 07:51 PM   #49
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Originally Posted by Raiderhader View Post
Let me preface my answer with this: there is no doubt in my mind why the Second Amendment was created. Looking at the historical context of the times and what the Founders and others living then had to say about it, and arms in general, anyone who tries to say otherwise is either an idiot or has an agenda. The young nation had just finished a war in which they fought against their homeland due to tyranny and oppression. But the Second Amendment was no way intended to afford the people the ability to resist a tyrannical government? Sorry, don't buy it.

Here is a great read on the very subject. And the website www.guncite.comis a wonderful resource in general. They actually provide sourcing and links to their information and quoted passages.

http://www.guncite.com/gc2ndpur.html

Now, given all of that evidence as well as the over all design of the Constitution which distributes the power in the land amongst not just three branches of a federal government but, also amongst the states and the people, it is more than obvious that the Founders realized what happens when power and authority are centralized. The checks and balances system pertains to all of us, not just the three branches at the federal level. And how, may I ask, are we the people to provide checks to our elected officials with out the balance of being equal to them in arms? Good luck trying it the other way.

So, finally to my answer, if you are a convicted felon who has shown to be a detrement to society instead of a productive contributing member, you get thrown back in jail if caught with a fire arm in your possession. No need to run background checks, because they are just going to avoid them any way. Out side of that law, I see no good to us the common man being restricted in any way in our ability to defend ourselves from tyranny, wether of the criminal variety or the governmental type.



Yes, because for the centuries leading up the invention of the fire arm, murder scarcely existed. Seriously, does anyone know just how naive they sound when spouting this tripe? Killing has been a part of life since the dawn of time. Someone wants someone else dead they are going to do it. Do you honestly believe that in a fit of rage someone is going to care wether a gun is handy or not? Of course not. They will pick up a baseball bat, a tire iron, they will smother with a pillow, strangle with a belt, stab with a knife ect. This notion that guns promote violence is foolish. Violence and urge to engage in it is a human thing, not a gun thing.



Yeah, because the almighty Supreme Court has never gotten anything wrong. They are made up of infallible human beings with no agendas or designs on power and control. For ****'s sake, they let Obamacare stand. The Supreme Court is just another group of power vying for more power. Just because they say something does not mean they are morally right.

And I vehemently disagree on my entitlements. I am, in accordance with the supreme law of this land and the higher law of God, entitled to certain rights. As our very own Declaration of Indepence says, "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."

Sorry but, there are just some things that no man has the right to take away from another man. Our existence, and our ability to protect our existence, as well as the existence of our loved ones and our property, is chief amongst those.
So basically you don't support any gun laws or background checks. You are ok with convicted felons, murderers, psychopaths, child molesters etc going and legally buying a gun? I am glad you are in the very minority in this country JFC.

And if you don't believe a gun makes it easier to kill someone I don't know what to tell you. Maybe you should go talk to the military and convince them to go back to clubs instead of killing the enemy hundreds of yards away lol.

We all know Columbine and Newtown would have happened without a gun. I am sure gang bangers would gladly go knock on their nemesis doors and try to throw knives at them rather than get in their beater, drive in the middle of the road, roll down the windows and spray and pray. yep guns don't make it easier.

You must live in some alternate universe you need to come back to reality.
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