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Old 03-20-2013, 10:26 PM   #60
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Originally Posted by dirk digler View Post
My point is if you don't believe in background checks, which you said you don't support in post #20, there is no mechanism in place to stop somebody from buying a gun unless you think the honor system will suffice.
THERE IS NOT CURRENTLY A MECHANISM IN PLACE TO STOP SOMEBODY FROM BUYING A GUN NOR WILL THERE EVER BE! That is the entire ****ing point and what got you and I started on this discussion. The black market is going to continue to exist regardless. People who shouldn't have guns are always going to have a way to get them. Meaning that these utterly pointless background checks you support......

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Don't stop criminals. They ONLY affect the already law abiding citizen.

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I never said it would stop killings what I said was it makes it easier for people to kill which it does. As my real life every day gang banger example showed. I am also 100% sure the military will disagree with you as well.

Your real life example proves nothing. Gangs existed before guns. Gains committed crimes, yes even murder before guns. Tighter gun laws, or even destroying every single gun in the world will not lower crime or violence rates. People will still war, murder, steal, rape, pillage and plunder just as they did for centuries before the fire arms existence. Your argument is based in emotional nonsense and not logic.

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My position is keep what is currently is banned, have universal background checks, make all gun crimes federal and have 10 year mandatory sentences for owing or purchasing a gun illegally, and crack down hard on gun traffickers.
No problem with any of that. While I obviously am in favor of things being much less restrictive, I can live with a freeze of the current state of being in addition to actually prosecuting those who violate gun laws.

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I don't want to take anyone's guns away and I don't my handgun that I own taken away. We just need to try as hard as we can to make sure the bad guy doesn't get a gun. It is not fail-proof but we got to try none the less.
You can try all you want but, these laws aren't going to stop the bad guys from getting guns. They are only going to...... Well, you know the rest by now.
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