Originally Posted by Raiderhader
THERE IS NOT CURRENTLY A MECHANISM IN PLACE TO STOP SOMEBODY FROM BUYING A GUN NOR WILL THERE EVER BE! That is the entire ****ing point and what got you and I started on this discussion. The black market is going to continue to exist regardless. People who shouldn't have guns are always going to have a way to get them. Meaning that these utterly pointless background checks you support......
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Don't stop criminals. They ONLY affect the already law abiding citizen.
Your real life example proves nothing. Gangs existed before guns. Gains committed crimes, yes even murder before guns. Tighter gun laws, or even destroying every single gun in the world will not lower crime or violence rates. People will still war, murder, steal, rape, pillage and plunder just as they did for centuries before the fire arms existence. Your argument is based in emotional nonsense and not logic.
No problem with any of that. While I obviously am in favor of things being much less restrictive, I can live with a freeze of the current state of being in addition to actually prosecuting those who violate gun laws.
You can try all you want but, these laws aren't going to stop the bad guys from getting guns. They are only going to...... Well, you know the rest by now.
The only thing I am waiting for is for you to grow a brain. Every year 100,000-150,000 people get denied buying guns because they aren't supposed to. Those people probably don't count though. Of course there will be a black market just like there is for drugs that doesn't mean we don't try to stop it or try to prevent people that shouldn't have guns from getting them. I bet you didn't know suspected terrorists can legally purchase guns and explosives here in the US. That is what stupid people like you support.
As I have said many times before the gun debate is just like the abortion debate. Reading through your posts about abortion I take it you think it should be illegal. But guess what genius abortions have been happening since the beginning of time, you can't stop abortions because there will always be a black market so we shouldn't try to do anything about it.
For my part I support reasonable common sense pragmatic laws to guns and abortions. There should be some restrictions on abortions like none in the 3rd trimester and parental consent. Just like there should be universal background checks and mandatory sentences for owning or possessing a illegal gun.