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Old 03-26-2013, 07:25 AM   #205
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Well, I can't say that a purely libertarian system is a horrible idea. It's just not what we have... And I think what we have is probably better. The problem with allowing discrimination in public business (discounting any ethical argument) is that you never know when you're going to find yourself on the losing end of the tyranny of the majority.
The will of the majority point applies when that majority uses govt to stomp on rights more.
So we have fundamental natural rights that are protected.


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A purely libertarian system might be more efficient, but you start to lose the benefits of having a society in the first place. And one of those benefits is the avoidance of such tyranny. It's all too easy to espouse ideas that nurture liberty and freedom to refuse service to anybody you want, while your particular race/creed is in favor.
This is a collectivist argument when you use society in this manner. The market is capable of, and has, of ending such acts by private businesses. These days, though, the govt is taking things too far and keeps adding to the list of victims. Silly.

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But no matter what you believe, you can find a time and place in the history books that hated your shit for no good reason.
Same goes for you and your progressive egalitarian shit for no good reason other than because you have labeled it a good reason.

It's not a matter of "belief" with me, it's from studying past episodes of discrimination some written by black men such as economics Tom Sowell's books including, Ethnic America and Walter Williams. Perhaps, you need to open your mind to new information instead of what the statists feed us.

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Forgetting that, and calling that freedom seems short sighted to me. REAL freedom is large groups of people, who by social contract, have decided to shelve their differences and get out of the harsh state of nature. That process of shelving our differences means, we don't get to murder each other and we don't get to cheat each other, and we don't get to ostracize a group through tyranny of the majority. All should be enforced by law. That's the whole POINT of society. Let that go, and what do you have left? Might as well go back to the cave.
There really is no social contract. Govt is force. That's a left-progressive-socialist idea stemming from Rousseau. It's bogus. Individuals have rights too. In fact the Constitution protects property rights but since the Progressive Era, influenced by Marx, those have been steadily eroding.
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