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Old 04-23-2013, 01:14 PM   #39
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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch View Post
I'll grant that you fall into the category of liberals who are ok with the death penalty. At least in certain cases. Now, I ask you to grand me that the clear majority of anti-DP liberals oppose it because they are morally against it. They don't like it, they think it's barbaric, they think it's just wrong. NOT because of the "certainty issue".


Because I've never seen a liberal - not one - say "Well I'd be ok with the death penalty so long as we know he's guilty. Or he admits it." Never once have I heard that.

I think most people that are against the death penalty hold that position for one of several reasons:

1. it's morally reprehensible for the state to cause death. How can the state say killing is bad when it is itself killing people. THIS is the position that YOU are referring to. I think, actually, that most people who are against the death penalty are not against it for this reason. Typically you find, for example, devout Catholics and the like holding this position.

2. The death penalty is bad because sometimes innocents are convicted, and you cant' undo death.

3. The death penalty is bad because human bias typically results in uneven, unfair and therefore Constitutionally unacceptable unequal application. Studies have supported this (more blacks get the death penalty when killing whites than vice versa, etc. etc.).


I think MOST people who are against the death penalty in principle are against it for the latter two reasons.

Here, you've got a pretty blatant "yeah, this guy needs to die by needle", and only those who are in category 1 are going to give a damn.
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