[the Talking Can]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

That's one thing that struck me. He scored a 24 on his Wonderlic which is reasonable for a QB. You would hope that going undrafted, having to fight for a starting job, and having to fight to stay on a roster period are a good wake up call to the guy.

I liked the Jay Cutler comparison. It's almost perfect. He could probably evolve into an unbelievably talented gunslinger who makes a lot of risky decisions, makes plenty of boneheaded decisions, maybe doesn't look like he's motivated to win all the time, and isn't going to be overly liked in the locker room. Not the optimal QB I'd want, but it's better than Alex Smith, and I actually like that ceiling more than a Barkley or Tyler Wilson.

i think Cutler is apt, but he obviously doesn't even have it together that much...Cutler was a legit 1st round pick, Bray is udfa

and i'm thinking of 'dumbass' more as life skills than raw intelligence...more about self motivation, making decisions based on long term rewards (grinding out workouts, watching tape, becoming a technician) than short term rewards (basking in the glory of a being a 'QB', loving the perks but not the hard work etc.)

if he is willing to eat shit as a 3rd stringer for a couple years without making waves, we might have something