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Old 05-01-2013, 08:14 PM   #17
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Originally Posted by BWillie View Post
Yeah I play live about 2-3 times a month and go to WSOP for the cash games. If you play 1/3 NL games, the games are routinely multi way pots almost every time. 2/5 NL and 5/10 NL games less so, but most "good" games you still get lots of these pots. If you never are seeing big multiway pots in live games, well, you are just playing in some bad games.

As far as raise amount, I don't want to go into poker theory in great detail but I don't know what would be considered to be a correct raise. IMO (which is probably flawed) raise sizes certainly shouldn't be static, they should be based on your image, stack depth, player ranges, position, and board texture. It is true that standard opening raise sizes in live play are generally larger than live, but that is due to people understanding there is a lack of fold equity in these good games and the fact that they play deeper (most live games let you buy in at 200 big blinds and players routinely acquire larger stacks due to high VPIP and more players seeing flops)

Also, "online players" are many times despised at live games quite frankly because many are doucehbags and think they are better than they are. But, most of them are just younger kids that have played only a very low amount of hands online, read a poker message board once or twice, and beat off to Durr and Phil Galfond but haven't put in the time to be any good. Most of the time, the online players problem is they just don't realize people do not fold and over estimate fold equity.
I appreciate your "teachings", but I play often (2-3x a week here in Vegas) mostly tournaments. Raising properly encompasses many things, not just 3x the blind. I know how to play, and the people I've played with who are regulars feel the same way I do regarding online poker, and how online poker players play. We are mot douchebags. we have been playing for years, and thats what weve seen. at least in this town. And it's not playing wrong to get multi way pots, but if you're constantly in a 5 way pot, that's no bueno. Heads up or 2-3 is good and lucrative. 5 way? Lucrative it can be, but also a bigger chance of getting donked on.
Like I said, I've been playing for many many years, mostly tournament ( and I tend to cash a lot). I'm a good player. I'm not a douchebag. And I've seen online plays be douchebags, and they a usually young and always expecting that straight flush to come along....
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