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Old 05-17-2013, 12:22 PM   #2
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As the fog settles is anyone really surprised at any of this? I mean seriously, Chicago politics along with typical hard-edged, socialism tactics are smeared all over this stuff.

Can anyone really believe Obama when he says for the umpteenth time that he didn't know about any of this?

I mean this guy is either lying through his teeth or is totally incompetent.
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So, if they were polling better than Trump and the primary goal was to prevent Hillary from becoming POTUS, perhaps it would have been a better strategic decision to nominate someone who actually had a chance of beating her and preventing that than nominating Donald Trump.
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