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Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan
Not getting into this with you. Just a heads up Johnson not a SO pitcher so i really don't care about that stat. Most GM in baseball would take Johnson over Holland. Gotta love Royal fans got the best player at every position yet every year still 15 to 20 games under .500.
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Greg Holland is one of the best relievers in baseball.
Go back 3 years. Look at whatever advanced stat you want to look at:
WAR
K rate
K:9
K:BB
FIP
You'll see Greg Holland dotting top 10s all over the place.
And even with all of that in place, I still wouldn't put him in the same territory as Papelbon, Kimbrel and Rivera because of the longevity/consistency issue.
I'd feel fine saying he's one of the 10 or so best closers in MLB.
Jim Johnson has saved a bunch of games the past year and a half. And that's a good accomplishment. But he doesn't have the high K ability to be a truly elite, lights-out closer.
Jim Johnson is good. He's effective. But he's not all that special (and I doubt he's a guy who's an above-average closer for a long period of time... groundball specialists just don't stick in that spot very often or for very long)