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Old 06-10-2013, 02:00 PM   #5625
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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho View Post
Greg Holland is one of the best relievers in baseball.

Go back 3 years. Look at whatever advanced stat you want to look at:

WAR
K rate
K:9
K:BB
FIP

You'll see Greg Holland dotting top 10s all over the place.

And even with all of that in place, I still wouldn't put him in the same territory as Papelbon, Kimbrel and Rivera because of the longevity/consistency issue.

I'd feel fine saying he's one of the 10 or so best closers in MLB.

Jim Johnson has saved a bunch of games the past year and a half. And that's a good accomplishment. But he doesn't have the high K ability to be a truly elite, lights-out closer.

Jim Johnson is good. He's effective. But he's not all that special (and I doubt he's a guy who's an above-average closer for a long period of time... groundball specialists just don't stick in that spot very often or for very long)
Come on, you know strikeouts don't matter.
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