[Walrus]

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

Yes, WAR is the only stat I referenced there. Right. "Look at whatever advanced stat you want to look at..."

Escobar was better than Hardy in 2012 at the plate and in the field and was worth about an additional win. I made the mistake of thinking a young player had figured it out and found a consistent level at the plate, coming off a season and a half of improvement at the plate.

Escobar has obviously cratered with the bat this season and regressed badly.

Please point out a way in which Johnson is better than Holland OTHER than a counting stat dependent on his team or in walking fewer batters/9.

But.... SAVES!!!