[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Evidence of nothing? Well that's just wrong. Is it compelling evidence on its own? Of course not, but a brick does not have to be a wall. A man physically demolishing a sophisticated security system in his own home raises alarm bells in my world. I wouldn't convict on it, but it's still evidence.

I agree that if you look at the aggregate of evidence, it's quite possible that he was involved in the murder of this man. But whether it's enough for a conviction is up to a judge and jury, not idiots on Twitter and Facebook and every other type of social media.

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

I just get frustrated by the fact that the average juror in criminal matters refuses to stack the bricks. They want one goddamn piece of drywall the size of bus. You can give them 1,000 damn bricks and they'll leave them sitting in piles on the ground, each time saying "well that isn't evidence" because it won't convict on it's own.

I don't know what it's like where you live, but here in Cali, the prosecutors seem to be able to put the dumbest human beings alive on juries. Maybe it's because of our lax rules regarding juries (length of time paid by employers, personal hardship, etc.) but it's absolutely astounding.

I've served on juries with the elderly, with people who's first language is not English (not that there's anything wrong with that outside of criminal proceedings), with government workers that were "happy" to have the "vacation" away from the Post Office and what not, etc. and so on.

And people wonder why Casey Anthony and O.J. walk.

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Yes. Destroying your security system is evidence. Demolishing your cell phone is evidence. Hiring a new cleaning crew the monday after the murder is evidence. Bodies being found near vehicles rented in your name is evidence. All of these are decent little bricks and it takes common ****ing sense to act as mortar.

And all too often, people completely refuse to exercise it. As a consequence, people like Casey Anthony get to murder their children and walk away.

Yep.

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

My complete lack of confidence in juries to convict anymore is why I'll never step anywhere near a criminal courtroom. Juries have forgotten that they act as both gatekeepers for the authorities but also as people responsible for dispensing justice those that have been wronged.

All because Gus Grissom finds blood and semen in every crime scene he's in and because we've become a society that adheres to a victim's mentality.

I think there's even more to it than that. I think that some people can't make a conscious decision to convict someone. I think that some people don't want to be involved in a murder trial, a rape trial, a drug trial, for fear of not only judging someone and seeing that type of horror first hand, but for fear of retribution.