Originally Posted by patteeu
Let me know when you want to talk about reality. That position is as bad as the communists who believe in their own utopian fantasies.
Well, you are just being a neo con here.
“Experience should teach us to be most on our guard to protect liberty when the Government’s purposes are beneficent. Men born to freedom are naturally alert to repel invasion of their liberty by evil-minded rulers. The greatest dangers to liberty lurk in insidious encroachment by men of zeal, well-meaning but without understanding.” — James Madison