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Old 07-12-2013, 04:37 PM   #5581
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The majority of the world assumed Zimmerman was up to no good.
A majority? You don't know that. You speculate an awful lot.

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If they saw him standing over a lifeless body, they would have taken action, maybe shot him on the spot if Zimmerman so much as flinched. And many of us wouldn't know how to react if Zimmerman did flinch.
More speculation.

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Ordinary citizens are not trained or prepared to profile people and to know how to handle themselves when they do.
So. It's still not illegal or wrong doing, ESPECIALLY when you look at the context of the break-ins in his OWN back yard. You're the one who was accusing him of profiling as in it being a bad thing.

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Enough talk about the cops being a terrible thing because they're run by the government.
Where did I say that in this thread? You're using a strawman here. Where did I say cops were being a terrible thing? More assuming and speculating. Cops themselves have even said, during the gun control debates, that they can't always protect us. It's a fact that some time must pass when one places a call to them. They arrive after crimes are committed more often due to this. I have no qualms with how the cops acted here. You're really reaching and your preachy.

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Cops are also trained to understand how to handle these matters -- while they slip up at times, they are a lot less likely to slip up than the ordinary person.
So. It's still a free country and there's no law saying a private citizen can't do it....and here it was valid.

Cops have been accused of profiling too. Some of them claim it's necessary.

IN my scenario above, you would have shot a man who turns out is more innocent than we realized. All because we made a rash assumption.

What scenario was that?

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The idea that ordinary citizens should be empowered to be proactive vigilantes is a scary proposition.
There you go again with your embellishments: "vigilantes" and "empowering people" to do this.

Meanwhile our own national govt wants ordinary citizens to act like block snitches these days.

If Z were acting as a vigilante he would have never called the cops.

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I get that you can't just wait for the cops to arrive, but there is nothing in what Trayvon was doing that suggests he was in any immediate danger to hurt anybody.
So that wasn't the point or can you not read. Z wanted to know where he was going so he'd know when the cops came. He did not want him to get away. His owns words show that.

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Not based on the facts we know from the case. All we know is that he was high.
We don't know if he was high. There was just a small amount in his system. I never said it made him aggressive, but it could have lead to him being a bit paranoid or led to misjudgment.
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