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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho
Wins tell you about as much about how good a pitcher actually is as his eye color. It was a little bit different when starters often pitched complete games, but in today's baseball setting, wins are next to worthless.
See: Roger Clemens 2004 season, in which every stat except wins made it clear he was the best pitcher in baseball, but he only won 11 or 12 games (for a team that was a contending team, no less).
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Exactly. The win totals for a lot of good pitchers has started to decrease over the years because they pull starters so much earlier. The last 25+ game winner was Bob Welch 23 years ago. Cy Young voters have also changed their opinions on pure wins and losses.
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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning:
Matt once made a very nice play in Seattle where he spun away from a pass rusher and hit Bowe off his back foot for a first down.
One of the best plays Matt has ever made.
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