Originally Posted by BossChief
Who cares what you gave up to get him? How is that relevant?
It's a big loss because the dropoff from him (and JD Walton) to Manny Ramirez is pretty sizable.
Yeah, that wasn't the point. The point is that there's a reason he got cut from the Pats and was going to retire. The reason is that he's old and not as good as he used to be.
In the end, Ramirez & Vasquez is better than Koppen & Ramirez.