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Originally Posted by R8ers
Anybody know what this is worth?
Mauser 9mm German Gesichert
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Your luger looks like an early war military Mauser.
You said it was a Mauser, so check.
What is the date on it?
I know your gun is military because of the 3 acceptance stamps on the right side of the receiver in the picture.
Look at the trigger, take down lever and mag release. They are not blued. They are a goldish color, called "straw". In the early days of the German war machine in WWII, Lugers were highly crafted. As Germany began losing the war, guns got rougher and manufacturers took more shortcuts.
The goldish strawing is from baking the metal in a hardening process that yields an outside coating that is more durable than bluing, so they used that process for the guns parts that would be touched a lot by fingers, such as the trigger and the safety, etc.
The significance of the goldish parts is they were only used on the lugers made between 1934 and half way through 1937.
If you had a 1934, it would have a "K" on the top of the receiver, and be called a "K-date" and is VERY RARE and valuable.
G is 1935, and build quality of those lugers is excellent. Being so early in the war, many G's survived the war in excellent condition rather than seeing front line use.
In 1936, Hitler quit trying to hide the fact they were re-arming and Mauser started blatantly putting the date on the guns.
So your gun should have either a K, G, 1936 or 1937 stamped on the top of the receiver.
Other than that, the blue on the receiver seems terribly worn, unless that is just a bad photo. That will knock the price way down.
"Gesichert" is just German for "secured" or "safe". When you see it, it means your safety is in the "safe" position and the gun can't fire. It is on every Luger written beneath the safety.
Here is a site with lugers and prices.
http://www.simpsonltd.com/index.php?...2826d261f7958f
That is just the list for Mausers. The main site has the links for most of the Luger varations, and there are many of them. Just remember, the prices you are seeing on the list are for guns in very good to excellent condition, and the gun in your picture is fair to poor if the receiver is missing all that bluing it appears to be missing.
Maybe you can find a similar gun to yours on it, but the condition isn't too good and everything comes down to having ALL matching numbers on the gun. One bad number and POOF, low value.
The ONLY exception to that is that sometimes the toggle pin will have an s/42 on it instead of the gun's original number. Most collectors won't hold that against you. That means that during the war, somebody lost the toggle pin and a field armory just replaced it with another pin stamped with s/42 to show that it was a genuine OEM replacement part meant for that gun.
Good luck. Luger buying is as much art as science.