[Dayze]

i think it truly does vary n a case by case basis.

the girl/woman's relation ship with her father, and or family.

knowing how big family was to her, well Family, I wanted to do it.
It would not have gone over well had I not from a disrespect POV. But, it worked out because I would've done it anyway.

and, as Okoye said, I don't think it's so much of asking for permission these days, but a blessing. The blessing can be denied, and yiou'll be married anyway etc, but a blessing (depending on the sort of family you're entering into) would be gravy.

of course, if you don't get a blessing, it's probably because you're a dirtbag, or the father is a prick. I'd say any stand-up, grown man would get a blessing otherwise.