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Originally Posted by Holladay
So, admittedly, I don't know much about the Browns and their history. When was their last playoff win? Have they won a Superbowl? Who are some of their better players in history? In the last 10 years, has their suckage been as bad as ours?
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In order, and off the top of my head so don't hold it against me...
Last playoff win is probably 1994 against the Patriots. Belichick beats his old mentor Parcells. In 1995 the season falls apart when, after the third or fourth game, owner Art Modell announces the team is moving to Baltimore. In 1996, after BB is fired and using a pick he had got when he did his patented trading down, the Ravens pick Ray Lewis, then go on to win the Super Bowl in 2000. Then the Pats (with the Browns' old coach) win 3 out of 4.
So basically imagine this:
Hunt says he's moving the team to Los Angeles, then fires Romeo.
In 2013, using a pick that the 2012 Chiefs used when still in KC, draft possibly the best linebacker ever. In 2016 they win the Super Bowl.
Meanwhile, Romeo Crennel, now HC of a different team, wins 3 out of 4 Super Bowls in another city.
Oh, and 15 years later (2027) you still haven't been to the playoffs, Crennel is commonly regarded as the best HC in football, if not the best ever, and is ALWAYS in the playoffs.
THAT is what it means to be a Browns fan...
(side note: I always used to laugh at die-hard Red Sox fans over the misery and woe. They don't know misery. Look at the Chicago Cubs you self-centered bastards. Not only no WS in a longer period of time, but a helluva lot less talent and playoff/WS appearances).
Browns never won a SB. Never even BEEN to the SB I don't believe. The Browns were THE dominant NFL team in the 50s and into the early 60s, with guys like Otto Graham (50s) and Jim Brown (60s). Head coach was Paul Brown (who the team was named after), who was probably THE best HC in football history (college and pro, he dominated). (side note: Art Modell FIRED both Paul Brown and Bill Belichick, both of whom would probably make the top 10, if not top 5, all time best HC list of just about anybody).