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I've used several purpose-built video recorders and they pretty much all suck.
Some of them use proprietary software or modified formats so that getting them onto a computer and editing them is a pain in the ass.
If you find one that is good at that, the image quality is poor.
It's just a big crap shoot, honestly.
My daughter's Flip camera is awesome but as you said, can't really buy them anymore.
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