[WilliamTheIrish]

Originally Posted by Saul Good

They do. There are teams in four conferences who have won games as members of the Big 12 more recently than Kansas...plus teams that have moved from the WAC and Big East into the Big 12 and won games in the Big 12 since Kansas last won.

Found this on goEMAW, but I think it came from another source. Probably phognet. Didn't care enough to look deeper. But here it is.

This points out one thing clearly: That waxing rhapsodic over Mason/Mangino is also kind of sad. Mason had a single good season. Mangino had a single great season aided by the schedule.

This is Jim Wooldridge bad. His Big XII Bball stats are worse.

Perspective: guys it's bad

Big XII records
1996 2-6 Mason
1997 3-5 Allen
1998 1-7 Allen
1999 3-5 Allen
2000 2-6 Allen
2001 1-7 Allen
2002 0-8 Mangino
2003 3-5 Mangino
2004 2-6 Mangino
2005 3-5 Mangino
2006 3-5 Mangino
2007 7-1 Mangino
2008 4-4 Mangino
2009 1-7 Mangino
2010 1-8 Gill
2011 0-9 Gill
2012 0-9 Weis
2013 0-5 Weis (so far)
Big 12 totals 36-107

0 football victories in Waco, TX (all-time)
0-10 against the Texas Longhorns in BigXII play (outscored 436-145)
1 winning BigXII conference campaign
1 .500 BigXII conference campaign
3 winless BigXII conference campaigns
3 two-win BigXII conference campaigns
4 single-win BigXII conference campaigns
8-52 against the "South" in BigXII play
14 years in BigXII era losing 1 or more non-con game(s)
15 losing BigXII conference campaigns
19 victories over final Top20/25 teams in 106 years of football
25 game current conference losing streak
45 (1968) years since sharing a conference championship (LBJ was President)
83 (1930) years since winning a conference title outright (Hoover was President)

November 6, 2010: last win against a BCS and/or BigXII opponent

September 12, 2009: @ UTEP: last road victory


November 29, 2008 vs. Missouri (Arrowhead): last time KU defeated an opponent that finished in the final Top 25

October 4, 2008: last conference road victory (George W. Bush was President)

September 13, 1997 vs. Missouri: last time KU defeated a conference opponent at home that was currently ranked and finished in final Top 25 (Bill Clinton was President)

October 7, 1995 @ Colorado: last road victory for KU over an opponent that finished in the final Top 25 (Bill Clinton was in his 1st term)

21 years for KU to defeat 6 opponents of any kind (conference, non-con, bowl etc) that finished in the final Top25: 2008 #19 Missouri, 2007 #9 VaTech, 2005 #24 Nebraska, 1997: #23 Missouri, 1995 #5 Colorado, 1991 #21 Tulsa

30 years for KU to defeat 8 opponents of any kind (conference, non-con, bowl etc) that finished in the final Top20/25: 2008 #19 Missouri, 2007 #9 VaTech, 2005 #24 Nebraska, 1997: #23 Missouri, 1995 #5 Colorado, 1991 #21 Tulsa , 1984 #6 Oklahoma, 1981 #19 Missouri (Ronald Reagan was in his 1st term as President)