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Originally Posted by Detoxing
you can't defend the argument that you put on the table.
Can you Explain to me how replacing Albert with Joeckel improves the team more than a QB?
How does adding a 3rd pass rusher with Major health concerns improve the team more than a QB?
Are these players going to make the offense any better?
I can't figure out your reasoning.
You are aware of how bad our QB position is, right?
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Good post and question.
We have a new regime. We don't know which players they value yet but, we do know their off season histories.
Andy Reid has traded in his first pick seven times in the last ten years. He has traded up five of those seven times to get the guy he wants. Unlike most coaches or GMs, Reid also trades players. That is pretty rare these days. For example, last year he traded for Demco Ryans and traded Asante Samuel away. The year before he traded Kolb for a CB and a draft pick even though he needed a QB. Hell, he even traded the player he grew up with (McNabb) to a divison rival. Reid doesn't give a shit. He will always go for the guy he wants no matter what. Also, if you aren't helping him, he is going to waste time with you. He isn't going to hang around and wait very long for guys to develop. If Reid doesn't absolutely love one of these QBs and really really want them, there is no way he will take one at #1.
Dorsey has talked about the Packer way over and over. He has been adament about sticking to his draft board and cited specific players he took when he did not have a need at their position. I think he's a pretty straight forward guy and has been pretty upfront about that. You can look for hidden meanings and conspiracy theories all you want but, I am taking his word for what it is.
Right now, Brandon Albert is almost dictating the draft. If he signs a deal, we probably won't draft a tackle number one but, we might. If he is franchised, there is a very real possibility we will take a tackle. I'm sure we would try to trade him and we probably wouldn't wait until next year to sign him. LTs aren't like WRs for example. He will have potential suitors unlike Bowe. LTs are hard to find. There are teams that need a LT who are not in a good postion to get one. There are two, maybe three guys in this draft that look like they could play LT. Take St. Louis for example. They have the #16 and #22 picks. If they offered that for a tagged Albert, we can't pass it up. We could take an OT at #1, a QB at #16, and LB, DE, NT or CB at #22. Note that per the new cba, trading a franchise players requires two first round picks in return. Say we keep Albert? We could still take a OT #1. This will be the last year of Winston's deal. Yeah, Stephenson played well but, does Reid think he's the answer? Reid values linemen on both sides of the ball above all else. He comes from the old school of thought that if you can't protect a QB then you don't have a QB. Furthermore, think about his experience in Philly last year. One could argue that a lack of o-line depth cost him his job.
Is our o-line good? I mean we know they can run block but, can they pass block? I know there are pff stats and all and they were ranked 7th but our passing game sucked. It wouldn't be "out there" to think that maybe our o-line was overrated. I trust Reid to watch the tape.
We don't know about Jarvis Jones medical history. I can tell you I am a Bulldogs fan and have watched every game he played in there. I don't remember him ever getting hurt and he literally plays as hard as Polamalu. He is hard on his body and intense as hell. What if he is fine? What if the physical goes great? Tamba Hali is going to be 30 years old this year and going into the downside of his career. If Reid likes Jones, I could see him trading tamba in a heartbeat. There are teams that would be interested and that could get us back into the first round to take a QB.
We are losing one, probably two DEs. We are going to need some DEs.
The point is that I am open minded and am expecting some "craziness" out of the new regime. I expect a vet to get traded this year. I am keeping an open mind and looking at everything. Getting back into the first will not be that hard. We have some talent that we can trade and we have the best pick in every round.
Make no mistake. I would prefer not to gamble on a QB falling to the second round and I plan on the Chiefs moving back into the first round. I see this as the most likely scenario. I think the new regime has prepping us for this scenario with several comments that were made about a 2-3 year window. If they can't get back into the first, they want us to be ready for it.