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Old 04-09-2013, 09:34 AM   #387
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Originally Posted by BigRedChief View Post
Rosenthal should be given the oppertunity. He HAS shown the potential. We need him to step up, lets see if spending the winter with Carp set him up for success
Its a valid measurement to judge a potential closer. Just what would you use to evaluate a closer? There is no closer evaluation template to be applied to every potential closer.
No it isn't, not if you don't use it correctly.

He has literally zero chance to earn a save there so how the hell do you hold a blown hold against him? Especially if you don't give him credit for the holds he did secure?

Boggs hadn't blown a single save since May of 2011 - he just hadn't. I don't care if he incurred a BS, he was not in line for a save in any of those situations. And if you're going to start dinging him for blown saves when he blows a hold, you have to give him credit for being 3rd in major league baseball last year when he held 34.

So at that point, his success rate was 34 of 37; I'd say that's pretty damn outstanding.

This is nothing more than people wanting to install Rosenthal into the 9th without him having to earn it so they're mis-using the hell out of a stat to try to make their point. You say we need him to step up? What do you think we've asked him to do twice in the last 4 days? And both times he spit the bit in the 8th with a 1 run lead. Sounds like a ticket to a promotion to the 9th to me.

Oh, and if that's how you want to use the statistic, Trevor Rosenthal has blown every save opportunity he's ever had and is presently leading the league in blown saves.

Yeah, real good use of the statistic there, champ. You're seeing what you want to see and nothing else. Rosenthal's command is shot, his heat is straight, his breaking ball just flat sucks right now and he's blown the 2 high leverage situations he's been given this year. But yeah, lets ignore all that and manipulate the save stat in favor of just handing the kid the 9th.
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