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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare
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Woof.
There was nothing of her albeit limited performance in the trailer that was even remotely close to endearing or engaging.
I'll watch women action movies. I loved Atomic Blonde. I'm stoked about Black Widow. I watched Peppermint recently, and Jennifer Garner is a shit ass actress but the action was believable. I don't hate it and I'll see it, but do it right, and I think there is a less than 0% chance that making James Bond a woman.
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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut
Looking forward to the "white men aren't going to see the new James Bond movie because they're misogynistic, racist tools of the patriarchy" hot takes.
Nah - we're not gonna go see the new James Bond movie because there's no James Bond in it.
They aren't "007" flicks; they're James Bond flicks. This isn't even Mission Impossible, where you can maybe get away with Ethan Hunt taking on a reserve role. Even then, people were pissed about making Jim Phelps, a protagonist from the (little watched) television show, a bad guy.
This is the Bourne franchise, where Jeremy Renner tried to step into the forefront and the movie fell on its face (despite being a pretty decent stand-alone effort).
I just don't understand how they think they can take the James Bond franchise and toss a female lead in there and think "well yeah, it's the same thing..."
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I liked the Renner Bourne flick, I'm sure it didn't do well because they didn't go back to that well, but if Bourne doesn't work after what, 3 movies? No ****ing way they can do Bond after all the movies and books and just general pop culture that character has created.
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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut
I've warmed to Idris Elba as Bond, even though I kinda don't see the point. I just like the guy. The more I've seen of him, the more I like him. I still wonder if he has the 'suave' gear. He mostly plays 'rugged'. That said, Craig's Bond has kinda taken the franchise in that direction anyway so that stumbling block isn't as significant anymore.
The problem is that Elba has gotta be near 50 years old. And I know Craig is 50 but he's also been doing this for, what, 10+ years? Guy was in his late 30s when he was cast. He took the reigns damn near a full decade younger than Elba would be when Elba took over.
If you're gonna re-boot it with a new actor, you can't do the 'Bond is Old' thing for another 6-8 years.
Hardy presents a similar situation but I think Hardy looks a little younger than Elba. Hiddleston managed to turn into a parody of himself somehow and get knocked out of contention.
Nicholas Hoult ever get any traction in these conversations?
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I love everything Elba has done (It should be noted that I won't be seeing the Cats movie...FFS that looks bad). If you haven't checked out Luther, do it. It's just Elba being a fantastic ****ing actor. Obviously the Wire too, if you haven't (which would be a crime). But you're right. He's too old. Unfortunately.
I can't be a bigger fan of Elba.