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Chest Rockwell · 10-11-2012, 07:45 AM

My guess is the titles will just be vacated, but take that for what it's worth. Which is pretty much nothing.

After reading the first 50 pages of the reasoned decision, it looks like he avoided positives/testing pretty much the same way everybody else who was able to did: prewarning and avoidance. Staff of the USPS/Discovery teams (and their consultants) were already well connected and informed re: doping and testing at the time. Bruyneel, for one, was recently retired from the ONCE program which was well known for it's doping. There was also no rider location program at the time, and there was no out of competition testing done. Since LA focused on the TdF and didn't do many, if any early season races, no one really knew where he was, and he didn't have to do any testing until the TdF or Tour de Suisse or Dauphine or whatever races in June/July were his first competition of the year.

Just a few of the instances that were outlined so far and I find especially interesting(the first 50 pages only cover up to the 2000 TdF):

-A testing at the '98 worlds where the team saw a testing station being set up in time for them to do saline dilutions (a typical positive masking of the time if you had time to do it).

-A '99 positive at the TdF for corticosteroid where a script was created and back-dated for saddle sore treatment. Cortisone use is ok with clearance if being used as medical treatment; clearance was not given until after the fact and it does not appear there was actually a preexisting condition being treated.

-Re-testing of 6 '99 TdF samples show EPO use(testing for EPO didn't exist until 2000 and was not very good at detecting until more recently).

-In 2000 with the implementation of EPO testing US Postal moved to transfusions.

For a legal document it's been a pretty interesting read so far (of course, I'm someone who was riveted by The Death of Marco Pantani)...

Obviously I've not gotten to the infamous 2001 Tour de Suisse incident, but I'm quite interested what, if anything, the documents say about it. (For those who aren't familiar: Several rider samples showed probable EPO use; one was Juan Pelota. UCI basically ignored it and over the course of the next year or so LA and JB donated approximately $100k to UCI.)

10-11-2012, 07:45 AM	#170
Chest Rockwell Y'all are brutalizin' me! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Jim Bob Cooter 4 Heisman Casino cash: $10000985	My guess is the titles will just be vacated, but take that for what it's worth. Which is pretty much nothing. After reading the first 50 pages of the reasoned decision, it looks like he avoided positives/testing pretty much the same way everybody else who was able to did: prewarning and avoidance. Staff of the USPS/Discovery teams (and their consultants) were already well connected and informed re: doping and testing at the time. Bruyneel, for one, was recently retired from the ONCE program which was well known for it's doping. There was also no rider location program at the time, and there was no out of competition testing done. Since LA focused on the TdF and didn't do many, if any early season races, no one really knew where he was, and he didn't have to do any testing until the TdF or Tour de Suisse or Dauphine or whatever races in June/July were his first competition of the year. Just a few of the instances that were outlined so far and I find especially interesting(the first 50 pages only cover up to the 2000 TdF): -A testing at the '98 worlds where the team saw a testing station being set up in time for them to do saline dilutions (a typical positive masking of the time if you had time to do it). -A '99 positive at the TdF for corticosteroid where a script was created and back-dated for saddle sore treatment. Cortisone use is ok with clearance if being used as medical treatment; clearance was not given until after the fact and it does not appear there was actually a preexisting condition being treated. -Re-testing of 6 '99 TdF samples show EPO use(testing for EPO didn't exist until 2000 and was not very good at detecting until more recently). -In 2000 with the implementation of EPO testing US Postal moved to transfusions. For a legal document it's been a pretty interesting read so far (of course, I'm someone who was riveted by The Death of Marco Pantani)... Obviously I've not gotten to the infamous 2001 Tour de Suisse incident, but I'm quite interested what, if anything, the documents say about it. (For those who aren't familiar: Several rider samples showed probable EPO use; one was Juan Pelota. UCI basically ignored it and over the course of the next year or so LA and JB donated approximately $100k to UCI.) __________________ MASTER CYLINDER! Last edited by Chest Rockwell; 10-11-2012 at 07:51 AM..
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