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Originally Posted by ThaVirus
I mean, I don't want to make it seem like I'm defending this atrocious movie, but all of this is just more reaching.
How is Han a deadbeat? Isn't Kylo's turn to the dark side the source of their estrangement? Luke a coward? That just seems really off base. He seems disillusioned, maybe. And Finn? He turned heel on the First Order, squared off with Kylo Ren and attempted to sacrifice himself at the end of TLJ. Hardly the acts of a true coward.
All of these characters may be deeply flawed or just shit in general, but I don't see much evidence of a vast conspiracy to debase the patriarchy.
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1. Han is a deadbeat dad and husband. Estranged? Han ran away when he didn't want to confront his son and abandoned his wife AND his son. Not impressed.
2. Yes, Luke tried to murder his SLEEPING TEENAGE NEPHEW and then ran away and hid while he waited for death. That is cowardice. I don't see any alternative way to interpret it. He was disillusioned by his own self hatred... because Jake Skywalker knows he's a coward.
3. Yes Finn acted bravely at the end of both films. That was his arc... he starts out timid and defers to others. Eventually the influence of strong women (Rey in TFA and Rose in TLJ) makes him discover his inner bravery. I thought it was interesting in the first movie (bravery often comes from a desire to protect those we care about), but to see him totally reset in TLJ as if that character growth NEVER HAPPENED only to do it all over again was obnoxiously redundant. Especially since you could have removed Finn/Rose and their story from TLJ with almost no actual impact on the story. Finn was the best and most well developed character in TFA, and they wasted him badly in TLJ.
This isn't avast conspiracy dude. IT's subtext... something you find in every single movie ever made.
Did you notice that The Dark Knight trilogy was about the war on terrorism and the need to fight dangerous ideas with physical violence? That's also not a conspiracy. IT's just subtext.