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Originally Posted by suzzer99
Ok I'll do it then since you're all having too much fun circle jerking. Also because I'm curious.
Going back to 2000, here's the next QB that was taken after the Chiefs drafted. I think this is a much more fair measure than just picking the best QB in hindsight. I mean I know you're all brilliant GMs who definitely wanted Freeman over Sanchez at the time, but let's stick to what NFL GMs who actually spent approx. infitily more time analyzing the players came up with. I also listed the QBs we could have potentially traded up for, and the ones who were out of reach.
2012 1.11 Dontari Poe NT Memphis
Next QB: 1.22 Brandon Weeden
Prev QBs (we could have possibly traded up for): 1.8 Ryan Tannehill, 1.2 RGII (if we give away the farm)
Out of reach: 1.1 Luck
2011 1.26 Jonathan Baldwin WR Pittsburgh
Next QB: 2.35 Andy Dalton
Prev possible QBs: 1.8 Jake Locker, 1.10 Blaine Gabbert, 1.12 Christian Ponder (any of those would have probably cost a 2012 #1, also barf)
Out of reach: 1.1 Cam Newton
2010 1.5 Eric Berry SS Tennessee
Next QB: 1.25 Tim Tebow
(ok I'll grant McDaniels is insane, next QB after that? 2.48 Jimmy Clausen)
Prev possible QBs: None
Out of reach: 1.1 Bradford
2009 1.3 Tyson Jackson DE Louisiana State
Next QB: 1.5 Mark Sanchez (Freeman after that)
Prev possible QBs: None
Out of reach: 1.1 Stafford
2008 1.5 Glenn Dorsey DT Louisiana State
Next QB: none until we draft again
2008 1.15 Branden Albert T Virginia
Next QB: 1.18 Joe Flacco (considered a big reach by most, but yeah a very good argument for "reaching" for a QB)
Prev possible QBs: None
Out of reach: 1.3 Ryan
2007 1.23 Dwayne Bowe WR Louisiana State
Next QB: 2.36 Kevin Kolb
Prev possible QBs: 1.22 Brady Quinn
Out of reach: 1.1 JaWalrus (dammit!)
2006 1.20 Tamba Hali DE Penn State
Next QB: 2.49 Kellen Clemens
Prev possible QBs: 1.10 Matt Leinart, 1.11 Jay Cutler
Out of reach: 1.3 Vince Young
2005 1.15 Derrick Johnson LB Texas
Next QB: 1.24 Aaron Rodgers
Prev possible QBs: None
Out of reach: 1.1 Alex Smith
2004 2.36 Junior Siavii
Next QB: 3.90 Matt Schaub (damn)
Prev possible QBs: 1.22 JP Lossman, 1.11 Big Rape (maybe if we trade a #1)
Out of reach: 1.1 Eli, 1.4 Rivers
2003 1.27 Larry Johnson RB Penn State
Next QB: 3.88 Dave Ragone
Prev possible QBs: 1.19 Kyle Boller, 1.22 Rex Grossman, 1.7 Byron Leftwich (maybe for a #1)
Out of reach: 1.1 Carson Palmer
2002 6 Ryan Sims DT North Carolina
Next QB: 1.32 Patrick Ramsey
Prev possible QBs: 1.3 Joey Harrington
Out of reach: 1.1 David Carr
2001 3.75 Eric Downing DT Syracuse
Next QB: 4.106 Chris Wienkie
Prev possible QBs: 2.1 Drew Brees, 2.53 Quincy Carter, 2.59 Marques Tuiasosopo (guessing not drafted as QB?)
Out of reach: 1.1 Michael Vick,
2000 1.21 Sylvester Morris WR Jackson State
Next QB: 3.65 Giovanni Carmazzi
Prev possible QBs: 1.18 Chad Pennington (I'm sure everyone here was screaming for Tom Brady at 6.199)
Out of reach: None
All in all there's a lot of crap out there. I'm not saying I'm happy with the Chiefs by any means. But I think it's easy to cherry pick the spots like Flacco, Rodgers, Freeman and Brees, and forget about all the ones we dodged like butt-fumble, Jafatass, Young, Quinn, Jason Campbell, Clausen, etc. or all the years there just wasn't crap to pick from (like many are predicting for this year).
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If you go through that list not every year was everybody screaming for a quarterback to be taken. The only true years that quarterback was a major need was 2001, 2009, and this year.
2001 traded our first round pick for Trent Green. It was an alright move, not great because Drew Brees was the quarterback that was there for our pick and was top of our draft board. So the Chiefs ****ed up there.
2005, Rodgers fall was pretty unexpected. Most mocks had him going top 10 at the very least. Derrick Johnson was a major woody for everybody and we were duped into thinking we needed to tweak the defense for a Super Bowl run. Short sighted move on the Chiefs part though but that was the Vermeil years in general.
2008 taking Albert over Flacco. Flacco was considered a reach by many. Not to mention the Chiefs weren' done with the Brodie experiment just yet.
2009 major **** up with the Cassel trade. Worthless POS from February 28, 2009 when it happened. ****ed up everything. Chiefs are lucky we didn't get into major salary cap issues because of it. Giving 63 million to Cassell and then 57 to Jackson was stupid. Starting quarterback contracts are a given so that isn't that bad even if Sanchez would have gotten the 57 that Jackson got, we could have used Cassel's contract to help improve the team in other areas such as a 3-4 DE, etc. That would have been around 12 millon a year. Not to mention we could have gotten a productive player at the top of round 2 in the draft. Good chance we could have been better because we couldn't have gotten any worst than we are right now.
Brees, Rodgers, Flaaco, and Sanchez. Thats the 4 we had a shot and passed and out of those it was really just Brees and Sanchez, who we passed on for Green and Cassel.