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Old 03-14-2014, 05:51 PM   #227
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It always takes great men like you to inform people what their opinion is so that you can argue against something you yourself created. It sure is easy that way isn't it? Please fabricate away. Tell me ALL of the points I was making...

You're getting defensive because you know you waltz around acting like the authority on music, TV, Movies... pretty much everything that requires nothing more than sitting on your ass and criticizing other people's accomplishments. Somehow this has manifested arrogance. You don't state things as opinions, you state them as objective facts. If you don't understand that, then your reading/writing isn't nearly as strong as you believe.

The only thing I contested is that "Reaper dislikes = garbage". and everything said was intended to illustrate that.

Everything else is just you fabricating things to attack me over. You're being childish, but feel free to keep calling names if it makes ya feel like a winner.
I don't know why I'm giving you the effort, seeing as you are being obtuse, but here goes.

1.) Yes, I called Pantera garbage. This is no more or less an example of a poster stating his opinion about a band than Pestilence saying Manowar is cheesy yet talented or Dayze saying Freidman's guitar work makes Hammett's look like child's play. Moreover, in post #139, I did as I was asked and clarified my statement that Pantera was garbage. Look at the language of that post: I was talking about what I like and how things sound to me. If that doesn't make it obvious that there's inherent subjectivity there then I don't know how to change the rules of English to suit your need to have your opinion treated the same as anyone else's.


2.) You claim that "the ONLY point [you ] were trying to make" is I am not the authority on music. I claim that you were making other points beyond that, and you have asked me to tell you, so here goes: a.) you made the point that caring about the amount of riffs per song is unimportant (ironically as if your sensibilities were authoritative?), b.) you made the point that a reliance upon rigid genre/subgenre classification is limiting (I couldn't tell if that was directed toward me or just said in general), c.) you made the point that Pantera shouldn't be compared to bands that play faster/have more riffs (implying that the reasons I gave for finding Pantera boring were invalid at worst or shortsighted at best), d.) your point that cross-genre comparison doesn't really make sense is doubly-troubling, because i.) you just said that defining a band by genre can be a limiting exercise and ii.) you opened the floor to this kind of comparison by alleging that I couldn't appreciate rock music because of my stated preference for "riff quotient" in non-atmospheric metal (which is one Hell of an assumption).
TL;DR? I count at least three major points in addition to your stated main point that I am not the authority on music.

By the way, I immediately agreed with you that me calling them garbage was a completely subjective claim based on my own tastes. Post #165. I immediately agreed with you. We are not in argument here about that.

The only thing we seem to be in argument in is what, exactly, you are saying, and why you can't understand the conversation we're having. My conclusion is that your disdain for me is such that you haven't been reading my posts closely enough. Which, I mean, that happens. I admit: in reviewing these posts, I realized that I misread one of yours. I implied that you said noodling=riffing, but I did so based on reading your use of "nor matching" in a previous post as "to match." My bad on that misreading.

Zero fabrications. Unless you count that misreading as a fabrication. Then, one.
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