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Old 10-12-2012, 11:59 PM   #229
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud View Post
Yeah, I am.

When ****ing idiots like Walter can get 90% of the first rounder nailed, I think it's a bunch of bullshit.

Every year, the draft pretty much plays out like the internet draftniks predict. Then, when a player doesn't pan out, people give GM's a ****ing PASS!

"Well, everyone rated him highly." "He wasn't a reach". "Who else should he have taken?". Etc. and so on.
When Carl Peterson was GM, they used to always say he controlled the first round and sometimes the second round. Beyond that, Chuck Cook was the only guy making the decisions. Of course draftniks will get the first round right. But that's not where scouts make their living. If you're a GM and can't draft better than Walter Football in the first round, you should be fired.

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I've said this before and I'll say it again: IT'S ****ING FOOTBALL!

These kids have been scouted as far back as 7th GRADE! Most people have a good idea of where these guys should go, then the Combine pretty much cements it

As a matter of fact, I'm not even sure why scouts are sent out because outside of a very few players each year, nothing is solidified until AFTER the Combines where guys are interviewed and tested.
This couldn't be more wrong. Most good teams walk into the combine with a good idea of what they're looking for. The combine is there to find any positive or negative surprises. And combine interviews almost don't matter anymore. They're so coached up that even dumbass Terrell Pryor sounds halfway intelligent. Field scouts are tremendous at working their networks to really learn about a player's character and leadership. And when a player has a freakish combine performance, the field scouts have the evaluation to say that it's a complete fluke. I don't think it's a secret that the combine is incredibly overrated and that good teams rely a lot less on it.

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Again, it's ****ing football, not rocket science. Jim Schaaf drafted excellent players for years but couldn't hire a coach for shit. And you want to tell me that he scouted colleges all over the country?
If Jim Schaaf was a good drafter, then that's a credit to his scouting network.
You don't think the Patriots noticed a huge difference when they lost Thomas Dimitroff, and then magically became better when Caserio took over? You didn't notice how absolutely shitty the Chiefs drafted when Lynn Stiles was their personnel guy, and how much better it became when Kuharich took his place? Hell, Pioli went through the whole combine in 2009 -- you think that was a replacement for having a full year with your scouts?
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