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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins
You seem to be conflating me with other people. I don't think Joe Flacco is a top five QB. He's not elite. But he had an elite postseason, just like Eli did, as you rightly point out. I'd definitely take Flacco over Romo solely for the age factor and I think Flacco still has potential to grow and develop as a QB, whereas Romo is leaving his prime.
Regarding the return factor: I think you're underestimating it. While you are right that it's impossible to know what happened, we all know what a demonstrable effect return TDs have on momentum. When Vermeil was here he always talked about how difficult it was to beat a team that had a return touchdown because it upsets the balance of the game so much, and I agree with that.
I'm higher on Flacco than you, and obviously lower than Romo, but I don't think he's in the Rodgers-Brady category. But he's earned entrance into the Eli category, and their play in the postseason elevates them above good fantasy QBs, to me at least.
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I can't put Flacco with Eli. No way. Eli carries his team during regular seasons. Eli gets his team into the postseason. Eli, two years ago, was pretty much the sole reason the Giants even had a chance to make the playoffs (which they turned into another Super Bowl).
When Flacco carries the Ravens into the playoffs maybe he can be on Eli's level. The Ravens won this year DESPITE Joe Flacco UNTIL the playoffs. Even then, the defense kept them in it for an entire half against New England before Joe woke up and start heaving it to Anquan.
Regardless...when Flacco has an Eli Manning 2011 where he single-handedly keeps his team together through injuries and shitty team play and is the #1 reason (and #2, #3 and #4) on why they are in the playoffs in the first place...
THEN I might consider Flacco to be a 2nd tier NFL star QB like Eli.
Right now, he belongs in the Romo, Cutler tier.