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Old 02-18-2013, 09:53 AM   #114
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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins View Post
No, it matters for both cases. In case C the player waits an extra year before hitting FA; it's just worded somewhat awkwardly.
That was my understanding as well but then I read somewhere that it just creates a 4th arbitration eligible year rather than only 5 years of team control. In other words, Super 2 players are still under team control for 6 seasons, you just have to go to arbitration for 4 of them.

EDIT: Found the article I was looking for:

http://www.fangraphs.com/library/ind...ess/super-two/

A year of service time in the major leagues is 172 days. So under scenario B, not calling that player up until April 15 should be long enough to keep him from accruing the 172 days needed for a full year of service time.

Evan Longoria is a very good example of this. He was only in the minors for the first 2 weeks of 2008, but that would've been enough to keep him from getting to 172 days and wouldn't have cost the team a year of team control.

Super 2 status is arbitration eligibility, That's the 'June 1' date you so often see, though even that isn't a bright line rule. FA eligibility is a different animal and is based exclusively on service time. I believe the Cards would only have to keep Tavares in AAA for 2-3 weeks to keep from losing the extra year of team control, though they would lose a season of pure cost control by doing so.
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