[Quesadilla Joe]

Originally Posted by DBOSHO

Berry, moeaki, and charles have had surgery on their knees and they are at camp. They are back.

Whew that makes me feel good.

Totally different injury. The issue was nerve regeneration. Once the nerve starts regenerating it isn't going to start degenerating if he gets hit.

Usually there's a long dormant period, where nothing's happening," said one orthopedic surgeon with knowledge of the injury. "Then you start to see that improvement. Sometimes the nerve can be asleep for months, and then you see a flicker, and then accelerated recovery. It's not unusual to see a long dormant period, then the re-nervation period start and go to steady recovery."

He then added, "Once it's significantly improving, the nerve's not going to degenerate again."

"What that means is there's not permanent blocking of the nerve signal," the surgeon said. "If he's getting better, then the wires are working. Now, it's a matter of gaining strength and fine motor activity to return. The question is the pace of recovery for a 36-year-old guy, he's got a ticking clock. But you can plot the trajectory of his improvement over the last several months, and if you see a significant increase in strength the last few weeks, you can be more optimistic.

"You can plot the level of function and strength compared to the opposite arm, and plot it out to where he would be based on the current level of improvement on March 8. And if that plots out to over 90 percent by September 1, teams would be crazy not to take a shot on him. If it's a slower rate, that's a different story."

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d...ritical-factor

Manning has got the zip back. The whole injury thing is a thing of the past.