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Old 01-27-2012, 05:12 PM   #181
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It absolutely can if you do it correctly.

Again, I'm not talking about handspeed. Your position is that handspeed remains unchanged because fast-twitch muscles aren't impacted. Okay, whatever - I don't know why sprinters continue to use PEDs if that's the case as running speed is based almost entirely on fast-twitch muscles, but it's beside the point - I'm willing to concede your position for the sake of argument.

Batspeed, however, is more than just handspeed. It's a product of both handspeed and strength. You continue to ignore the fact that you're swinging an object that has mass.

If can bench 100 lbs and try to swing a 3 lb, end-weighted object, I'm not going to be able to swing it nearly as hard as if I work out for awhile and get my strength to the point that I can bench 200 lbs. I'm going to be able to move that 30 oz object much more quickly because I don't have to work as hard to overcome the 'inertia' of a resting object.

You keep focusing on the ability to move hands (I guess) and speed/power comes from so much more than that. It comes, again, primarily from your legs. From there it simply compounds itself through your body and the strength builds on strength to create speed.
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Ok let's clear a few facts up.

You can get stronger and not get faster. Fact.

You can get faster without getting stronger. Fact.

Two guys that bench press 315 as their max. Who is more powerful? The guy that can press it faster. The other guy can't press it as fast because THAT part of muscular function is dictated by how his central nervous system fires.

A guy can get stronger and not get faster because he isn't WIRED to be fast. it's a neurological thing, not a strength thing.

A guy can get faster, and not have gotten stronger. It's a neurological thing.

According to what you write, getting stronger is the key for a sprinter to get faster. This is not true. A sprinter gets faster by working on the rate of turnover in his stride. The body becomes more efficient from a motor skill perspective by doing this repeated movement. Stronger muscles doesn't always mean he can perform this movement more efficiently.

The same applies here. A guy can get stronger, but have shitty swinging mechanics, which LOTS of major league guys do, just like LOTS of NFL quarterbacks have shitty throwing mechanics, and getting stronger will not fix this.

Thus your argument is completely invalid. If it were true, then Strength and Conditioning coaches would be the second highest paid coaches on the god damn team. But they made bread crumbs compared to everyone else. If all it took was to have a bunch of guys batting better was to get them stronger, then S&C coaches would be looked at as gold. They aren't.

You guys are way out of your element arguing with me on this.

Case closed.
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