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Old 07-30-2012, 02:42 PM   #6262
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Originally Posted by Zeke View Post
acquiring guys like davies\mazzaro\bannister etc isn't the problem. It's sticking with them for YEARS after it's shown it won't work. Forcing the fans to watch the same guys run out constantly.

And I beg to differ on your comment they were better than anything else.

KC had a guy 2 years ago they got off the waiver wire that put up good numbers in Omaha. He was given a glimpse of the big leagues.. and didn't do poorly. However, getting Bannister, Davies and O'Sullivan their starts was more important. -> Phil Humber

They are there... This is just one example that encompasses 3 of the 4 mentioned.
That's really what I said re: stubborn refusal to give up on guys until well after they've proven to be ineffective.

I forgot to mention this on Bannister, but considering what they gave up for him, that was a VERY effective trade for KC. He had a few good seasons for the Royals.

Humber had a miracle season with the White Sox last year but has returned to suckittude this year. You can nitpick about bringing him up for the handful of starts O'Sullivan got in 2010, but Humber wasn't setting the world on fire at Omaha that year, either.

Again, not defending Moore blindly or anything. There's plenty to criticize. I just think picking at trades like Ambiorix Burgos for Brian Bannister or Alberto Callaspo for Sean O'Sullivan and Will Smith is taking too shallow/easy a look at things.
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