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Originally Posted by SNR

I need to justify my opinions? What the **** do you think I've been doing?

How about YOU tell me what makes Te'o so ****ing special? And how about YOU tell me why the **** teams like Jacksonville, Oakland, Cleveland, Arizona, Buffalo, New York, and many others would ALL pass on a QB in the first round?

You're the one making the ridiculous argument that only one or two QBs will be drafted in the first round. I'm not backing shit for you.

Go do your ****ing homework before you lecture me on logic and foundations of an argument, when all you've been doing is using tricks and sophistry to pimp up an ILB being taken at #1 overall.

What do I think you've been doing? I think you've been changing the variables within my argument to state your opinion against mine, after changing said variable. That is not allowed in my hypothetical argument, so try to stay on track if you want to disprove my idea or want to judge me on my choice in MY scenario, rather than create one for yourself for me to dice up and ridicule. I'll gladly wait.

As for Te'o, he's a solid tackler and one of the best in terms of Pass Coverage, you need that in this league from your ILB's, and there aren't many in this draft that I've seen that are nearly as good in pass coverage on top of run support.

As for your teams that you suggest will draft QB's. Arizona might pass all together if Reid lands there. Buffalo might keep Fitz and his contract, he isn't that bad and I don't think they've got enough talent built up on the offensive side of the ball to go after a QB right now. New York is a cluster**** with Tebow, Sanchize and McElroy there, I doubt they add a first round QB there with how bipolar their defense has been this year. Cleveland just spent a pick on Weeden, and McCoy not long ago, and Quinn before that, no way do they do it here again in this shitty of a draft.

I think Oakland likes what little they saw from Pryor and I believe have Palmer under contract still, I think they'll wait til the 2nd or 3rd to get a QB if they decide to go that route.

Jacksonville just spent a pick in 2010 on Gabbert and signed Henne, I don't honestly think they'll dip so quickly into the first round for a QB, especially in this draft.

So again, who do you have taking QB's? I've said at most 3 in the first round, and I think that's fairly accurate so far.

I've done nothing to pimp up an ILB at #1, I just said I'm not opposed to Te'O right now if we can get the same value in the 2nd if the QB's don't manage to separate themselves and Te'o blows up at the combine.

There's a lot of qualifiers in that statement I just made, so tread lightly before you dissect.

Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan

It's funny how highly you think of yourself. You can keep screaming about logic all you want. I'm assuming when you say that no more than 3 QBs are going in the draft, that you mean the 1st round.

I'm pretty awesome, and yes I mean 1st round. Thanks for the correction!

Originally Posted by SNR

That's your entire ****ing problem. It's based on the assumption that Te'o is "head and shoulders above the rest"

That's wrong. The foundation of your argument is based on a faulty premise. I've been trying to tell you that all ****ing night.

We don't know if that is wrong, actually. We will find out after the Combine and after his Pro Day, only then will we be able to truly evaluate him and place him correctly. As of right now, he's been phenomenal.

Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan

And how does that happen exactly? Skipping on Geno thinking Wilson will be there in the 2nd is reckless. Accepting a guy like Bray or maybe Glennon over Geno because of Teo is silly. Even with a bad pro day ect, there will be nothing remotely close to a guarantee that Wilson will be there in the second.

As of right now, I think Wilson will be, as I believe it'll most likely be Geno and Barkley taken in the first as there is little need for QB's in this draft at least 1st round selections. If that doesn't happen, at worst we get Bray who I think is going to be on par with Wilson or just a touch behind him. Keep in mind, I also am very high on Te'o right now, and that could change too. If he disappoints at the combine, I'll be 110% on the Geno/Wilson nutswingers club should they do better than average.

Originally Posted by RunKC

Let me expand. The combine is over and you feel this way. No QB's are said to be worth a top 10 pick.

Joekel, Lewan, J. Jones, D. Moore, Star L. and Werner look like top 5 picks.

Scouts say that eitherTyler Bray, Mike Glennon or Matt Barkley will be in round 2, if not all of them.

You know this at the end of February before free agency.

So there are no QB's slated for the top 10, Bray and Barkley are said to be in the 2nd round, Te'o isn't listed as a top 5 pick, and I've yet to sign Albert?

I'll retort before I decide. Has Geno distanced himself as the #1 candidate for QB?