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Old 01-03-2016, 05:34 AM   #185
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud View Post

Michael Jackson? He was the biggest game changer since Chuck Berry.
The Beatles were probably a bigger game changer on more levels than Chuck Berry. Chuck was the catalyst...but a bunch of those early 50s Chess sides were written by Johnnie Johnson anyway. Chuck took a lot of credit, and he was a badass, no doubt...

But Chuck influenced the real game changers (The Beatles and Stones). The Beatles have sold 10 million copies of the White Album ALONE. Does Chuck have 10 million album sales, total??
I know London Sessions went Gold...

With all due respect, and I know they were influenced by Chuck (who wasnt?)
But by all accounts, by 1960 Chuck was in jail, Buddy Holly and Eddie Cochran were dead, and Elvis was in the Army. It was 'How Much is the Doggie in the Window' and Doris Day and Shit like that.

We have the Beatles and Stones to thank for bringing Blues, R&B, and Chuck Berry back to America and introducing that music to a generation that was not buying Chess or Sun Records until maybe after they read the credits to the Beatles and Stones records they picked up at the local Woolworths.

Look at the early Stones albums - Jimmy Reed, Muddy Waters, Bo Diddley, Howlin Wolf, Chuck, Chuck, and more Chuck.

If it weren't for the Beatles, Dylan may not have went electric. Hendrix, all that came after...Micheal Jackson doesn't even compare to the Beatles. He was just a game changer in the unit shifter way. He may have changed the way the business worked at the time, and he was a gifted singer who had a great sense of melody and timing. I had Thriller when I was a kid. It was great. When I was a kid. But I'll never actually put on a MJ record today. It's well produced and all, but...if I want to go back to that Era and style, Prince had 2 albums right around that time that shit all over anything MJ did after he left Motown.

If MJ influenced anything, he influenced the vacant, soulless pop dreck that the likes of Justin Timberlame and the guy who was with the Chili Peppers at the Super Bowl whose name I forget but whose music was way better when it was called 'The Police'. You know who I'm talking about. It's like 2 one syllable words or something. Bruno or something. He's terrible. I can hear (and see) some MJ in that guy.

So I guess MJ was a "game changer" of sorts...but not in a really good way, as far as I can tell. MJ created the likes of Lady Gaga. Someone else who everyone goes out of their way to convince people how good she actually is...and I'm like, 'nope. I've got too many other records to listen to.'

Plus, MJ liked to get his Jared Fogel on. **** that shit. And I know, so did Jimmy Page and Don Henley and Ted Nugent...but somehow, 16 hear old girls are different than 8 year old boys, Dude.

He was a pederast.

8 year olds, Dude.

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