Thread: General Politics ***OFFICIAL VP DEBATE THREAD***
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Old 10-11-2012, 05:36 PM   #56
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Originally Posted by Direckshun View Post
All reports are that Ryan is a good debater. I would expect him to perform well tonight, I'm actually excited to see him in action because we don't get a lot of dudes like him at the bottom of tickets. Usually it's just some "let's excite the base" 'tard.

I just don't see how he can wiggle away from his budget. It's an incredibly well constructed, severely conservative document that vaulted his standing in the GOP. He didn't get to where he is by being good looking -- though he has that going for him as well.
I agree this will be fun to watch. I have always told people that Biden is a top notch debater BUT I am worried that he has been in such a bubble for the last 4 years that he may not perform as well as in the past. We'll see though.

Regarding Ryan's budget. It will come down to framing. If Biden frames it as a shining example of just how right Ryan and Romney are and can defend that position, he scores points. I just can't imagine Ryan wouldn't defuse that easily. If I were him, I'd have my "zingers" ready for just that eventuality.

1)point out that Biden may want to check his calendar because he's reading a document that is x days old and no longer valid
2)make a funny but seemingly harmless, we're buddies, I'm just bustin your chops type of remark about his statement being a gaffe
3)explain what I currently have as my budget etc
4)make another reference to Biden "catching" up to current state of affairs

Then when Biden tries to say, "well you ONCE believed that.. that's important"

5)point out how he and Obama have evolved on certain issues (quote an embarrassing example or two) and why is he(Ryan) not allowed the same latitude

That pretty much kills the issue dead.
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