[alnorth]

Regarding PED's, to me it makes a difference whether you were using before we collectively decided they were a bad thing and baseball started testing, or after. Guys like Palmeiro and Braun should not go to the hall of fame in my opinion, because they were using after tests started and after we all loudly and clearly decided these substances were forbidden.

During the PED era, the coaches, managers, GM's, owners, and executives all knew what was going on, and with a wink and a nod they condoned it. The players who used them felt they were given implicit permission to use them, and that they had to use them. It makes no sense to me that we're now punishing the players, but largely ignoring everyone else, and letting everyone else get away with acting like they were innocent and are SHOCKED that PED's were being used.

So, I'd vote in Bonds, Clemens, McGwire, all those guys, but I would not vote for people who knowingly use PED's in the current era.