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Old 09-16-2013, 04:57 PM   #89
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No, that's 100% wrong. Climate change exists completely independent of Obama or his policies, and it always has. That's the entire point I've been trying to make. You act like climate change is some new Obama idea or something. It's not in the slightest.

This is a perfect example of why there's so much misinformation and confusion regarding climate change. People don't even understand who's making the claims and why. They think(or have been erroneously told) it's an Obama idea when it's not in the slightest. Obama is certainly a **** up in many ways, and I don't agree with most of his energy policies. But that has zero to do with the science behind climate change.

There's lots of bullshit going on with various energy companies right now, but guess what, they give just about an equal amount of money to both US political parties. They're making their own rules and regulations by paying off both sides. Look at the campaign contributions to both parties. The majority of the top contributor names for both parties were energy corporations. They're paying quite a bit to be able to **** up the country. They paid enough so that if a republican president would have been elected, it wouldn't be any different. But again, that's a political problem and certainly not a problem with the data and validity of actual climate change.
You couldn't be more wrong.

I'm not arguing the fact that the true effects of climate change would or would not incur an economic impact.

I'm saying Obama is using the global warming scare (that means data) to order his goons at the EPA to shut down coal energy, our cheapest method of creating energy. That means higher prices for everyone. So yes, the two are intertwined.

Unrelated, I'd like to hear what kind of shenanigans you think energy companies are pulling to sway rules and regulations. I work for the energy company that has the largest wind farm in the nation and growing. I see nothing of what you speak, at least in our area.
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