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Originally Posted by FAX
My theory on this has been articulated before. I liked Haley. I liked his attitude and I liked his commitment to winning. It's a damn shame that he was paired with a certified asswipe like Dr. Evil whom I firmly believe actively undermined his efforts to turn this team into a successful franchise.
I never fully understood why people made so much of his "antics" on the sideline. NFL HCs are always going off for one reason or another and are rarely called out for it. Yet, when Haley showed some emotion (which I prefer to Roleo's or Herm's narcoleptic zombie demeanor) people went nuts ... never got that.
He was also a guy who studied the game. It interesting that the "new NFL math" is gaining traction when it comes to fourth down attempts, fakes, etc. Haley was trashed for his creativity and understanding of the percentages. If given another opportunity, I think he will eventually be a very successful head coach in this league. Meanwhile, we'll probably still be trying to figure out how to rebuild one more time.
FAX
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Well done.
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Originally Posted by FAX
One man's inconsistency is another man's surprise attack, Mr. DeezNutz.
Nevertheless, you may be right. Those decisions are situational, though. In order to agree with you, my brain would have to absorb the game circumstances associated with each call.
There's another variable, as well ... who was actually making the call? For example, was it Weis or Methuselah or Haley himself who make the call to run Thomas Jones around right end on 4th and 2 (or whatever it was)? So far as we know, it was Weis. Of course, Weis (a proven megalomaniac in his own right) would probably deny that.
Oh ... and as for "the team quit on him", Mr. PGM ... think about it ... when your GM is proactively busting your balls behind your back on a daily basis, it's a little difficult to lead. I challenge any HC in the entire league to retain his respected leadership status under those circumstances. It's impossible. Cannot be done. No way. No how.
FAX
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I am in agreement with every word.
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Originally Posted by PGM
Mr. FAX, it's the NFL win or GTFO
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Thats the thing. Pioli wanted Haley out after 2010.
Let me say that again...PIOLI WANTED HALEY OUT AFTER 2010.
You know why? Because Haley told Scott that Cassel was garbage and that he couldnt win with him and wanted the team to sign Matt Hasselback.
In 2009, Clark Hunt wanted us to
draft a franchise quarterback and Pioli stuck his neck out by standing on a soapbox for an alternate route and traded for Cassel and gave him that reeruned contract and was dead set on proving that was the right choice. Scott made that trade BEFORE Haley was even hired....then Scott went against Haleys wishes and drafted Tyson Jackson at 3.
Like FAX said, I think Haley flourishes when he gets a system around him thaat supports what he wants to do...that the way it should always be.
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Originally Posted by htismaqe
He put Orton in and immediately ran one of the longest-developing plays in the game of football, against one of the best pass-rushing defenses in all of football.
He's either a ****ing moron or he was TRYING to hurt Orton in order to have an excuse to go back to Palko.
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Haley was setting up a flea flicker all game. We were running a 60-40 split favoring the run and he was desperate to put points on the board and make a calculated risk.