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Originally Posted by Peyton's Princess
I don't really use that term in the NFL.
Eli Manning is clutch because Wes Welker dropped a ball, Mario Manningham made a great catch (on a great throw), and a helmet catch on a play the officials often whistle dead because the QB was in a grasp of a defender...
seriously
Tyree could have dropped that ball, or Samuel could have picked the ball a play earlier and Eli would have been a nothing.
Manningham could have not kept his feet in bounds.
Because of 3-4 fluky plays we think of Eli Manning is the ultimate playoff QB.
Tom Brady should be 5-5 in Super Bowls and without his kicker he may very well have been 1-5 instead of 3-5.
It's a ****ing team sport. The fact this board narrows it down to the QB every time a team loses is ****ing ridiculous.
I don't consider Peyton Manning any more of a choker than Tom Brady. I don't consider Tom Brady to be any more clutch than Matt Ryan.
I will say this was the first year where I doubted Peyton Manning when it got to OT after that Moore debacle. He just didn't have it...his arm was dead. I knew the game was over after Moore made that play. Or didn't make that play.
EITHER WAY...the NFL isn't like the NBA. One player can't win you a game. Aaron Rodgers lost in the playoffs.
Any team that wins a Super Bowl now needs luck. The Giants needed a Welker drop. The Ravens needed Rahim Moore and then the worst playcalling ever on the last drive in the Super Bowl by the 49ers.
there is no such thing as a Michael Jordan in the NFL...it's too much of a team sport
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I would agree for the most part, especially on the Welker play. I do however think that while you can't win with just your QB, its pretty damn hard to win without your QB stepping up and making plays when it matters. I have always liked Manning as well, but he has gotten tight in some of his big games while Brady has had ones when he hasn't, which has helped his team win those big games.
It's a situation where you need a lot to happen, but a QB making big plays in the final 5 minutes seems to be on the top of that list now. But as you said, in the NFL and NHL, as well as the MLB, you need things to go your way along with making plays at the right time to take advantage of it. The QB also has a bigger chance to help lose the game based on the decisions being in their hands late in the game.