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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins
Joe Flacco was the best QB in all four of his playoff games last year. He's not Trent Dilfer riding a great defense and throwing for 112 yards.
Any slapdick can have a game where they outplay a good QB (Smith vs. Brees in the 2011 NFC Divisional Playoffs), but it stops being a coincidence when Flacco put together the last two postseasons he did.
And here's the thing: Rahim Moore or not, Flacco outplayed Manning in that game. Manning needed an extra return TD just to be in the position to get Rahim Moore'd.
Here's something you all might not remember: Super Bowl XXIII. Joe Montana, who never threw a SB pick, was deep in the red zone and hit a Bengal in the end zone right between the numbers. He dropped it. The 49ers still scored and Montana ended up leading them on a game winning drive at the end. But his ass got incredibly lucky too.
That Rahim Moore play is no more of a good break than the Lee Evans drop was a bad one.
What's the end result? He still wins a conference championship again an elite QB, on the road, no less.
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That whole "Manning needed an extra return TD" argument is bullshit. No one knows that those drives wouldn't have ended in TD's either way, and no one knows how the game plays out otherwise if they didn't happen. It's a stupid ****ing argument.
Did Flacco outplay Manning through 4 quarters? I'm not sure. It was close. He made good throws to his receivers who made good plays (abusing Champ Bailey). Peyton Manning also made two really good TD throws that were dead on as well. Manning also led a "game winning" drive...and the Broncos also elected to run on 3rd and 7 when a 1st down would have ended the game outright.
That is totally debatable that Flacco outplayed Manning. It was close. He definitely outplayed him in overtime though I'm not sure that has anything to do with any plays Flacco made...just the fact Manning played like horseshit and looked like his arm was about to fall off in OT.
Lets not act like Flacco was some world beater of a man completing 53% of his passes for a 65 QBR against Denver. If Rahim Moore doesn't happen, your new phenomenon about Joe Flacco being elite doesn't happen.
The dude just isn't elite. At no point, up until a few wow throws this postseason, IN HIS ENTIRE CAREER, have I ever watched Joe Flacco and thought..."wow, he could be great."
Doesn't pass the eye test. Not one bit. One Super Bowl where you get the bounces doesn't do much for me.
The Pats could have put that game away in the 1st half if they played Patriots like offense...but they couldn't convert 3rd and shorts...and let Flacco hang around...hang around...hang around...and then Tom couldn't do shit and the game got out of hand.
But I am not trying to sell what he did short. He played really well this postseason. He got gifted some Eli luck and ran with it. It was impressive.
But one stretch in a long enough career doesn't suddenly make me think, "oh man, this guy is elite." He has talent, but his inconsistency is just too much for me to put him in the top 8. He's fringe. Personally, I'd take 13 QB's over Joe Flacco.