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Originally Posted by Aries Walker

This is correct. People root for Wolverine because he's popular, but power level wise, he's no match for Spider-Man on any level.

Originally Posted by Aries Walker

Okay, if you really want to do this: Wolverine can't kill Spider-Man either. He's not strong enough, even with the claws. Spider-Man just took an unholy beating from Phoenix-Force powered Colossus - whose weaker 'partner' Emma Frost had just pounded Thor literally into the dirt - and not only lived to talk about it, but arranged the defeat of Colossus and his similarly-overpowered sister Magik to boot. Spider-Man is also much faster, physically stronger, and far more acrobatic than Wolverine, and he has ranged weapons, and is a legitimate scientific genius. He repeatedly surprises other A-list superheroes with the levels of his abilities in combat. In his earlier days, he was a pretty weakling nerd, but over the years they've amped up his power level so he's on par with the strongest there are. Wolverine is strong, but not that strong.

Originally Posted by AustinChief

Spiderman is faster, stronger(10X to be exact) and FAR FAR smarter.

Spiderman could easily knock him out and stuff him in a furnace.

According to everything Marvel has published. Spiderman (if willing) could kill Wolverine in a New York minute.

Originally Posted by Valiant

They are correct 99 times out of 100 spidey should win against wolverine. But it depends more on the writer.. Wolverine could do it. Technically depending on wolverine lore, his mutant ability is not just a healing factor, it is surviving factor, he can reheal from being burnt to a crisp, dismembered, ages super slow.. Then add weaponry. But a pissed off spidey would be fun also..

You can debate either way from what writers have put into books..

the only battle that pisses me off is the batman vs. superman... Superman would own almost anyone that was not a magic user. Superman could just go orbital against batman and most others and own them them. Kryptonite, magic and humanity right now is his only real weaknesses.

Alright, thank you. Sounds like you guys listen to reason. In fairness, my friends are idiots. Their entire argument is that Spider-Man is gay and always gets beat up in the movies.

Spidery is stronger, faster, more acrobatic, more agile, has faster reaction time, the spider sense, and the webs- which according to the movies have tensile strength proportional to the cables that hold up bridges. If Spider-Man were pissed off, it wouldn't even be a close fight, IMO.

While we're on the subject though, what I find weird is how Wolverine is always portrayed. If you go by Wolverine Origins (which is one of my fave comics by the way), he was born sometime in the 1800s. He's been a member of Canadian black ops, fought in wars, spent time as a samurai, and survived the Weapon X program. The dudes had, like, 80 years of intense combat training and yet he's never mentioned as one of the best hand-to-hand combatants in the Marvel Universe. They always rank guys like Captain America and Black Panther and shit ahead of him.

On top of it all, he's always written as this mindless, berserker brawler. I mean, I understand they want to highlight his healing factor and show what a tank he is, but I've just always felt like it was doing his character a disservice.