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Old 09-12-2012, 12:44 AM   #54
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I just want to know how we factor in standardized tests for teachers who teach students who don't care and don't try on the test.
Ah, well this is tough for me to argue because I think the entire system needs to be overhauled from the ground up.

BUT let's try to work with what we have.

Let's keep it super simple and stick with MATH... you test everyone at the beginning of the year and at various points throughout and grade teachers on the progress. BUT you have to do two things. #1 tie the scores to tangible incentives for the students and #2 give the teachers enough authority and autonomy to weed out the lowest common denominator students and teach however they see fit. I don't care about methods, just results.

For you bleeding heart hippies... YES, I honestly would let those "problem" kids fail and die in a gutter LONG before I would let their actions drag down ONE SINGLE student who gives half a shit about learning.

Send those kids to some sort of Vo Tech classes where they can be useless in relative isolation for all I care.

So basically, the tests are used to establish a baseline of knowledge/skills and the teacher is graded on how well the students improve. As long as the tests are not rigged and the content is COMPLETELY unknown to the teacher, I don't any problems with this for a subject like MATH. It gets far stickier for other subjects.
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