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Originally Posted by warpaint*
Sure but taking snapshots of football programs is always a bad idea. Over the long haul Neb/CU/aTm/MU is a heck of a lot better than TCU/WVA. They are down but Neb was a critical loss and the most damaging of all. The fact they aren't doing as well as they have historically at this moment is irrelevant. It was a bad move for them to boot as far as football is concerned. They effectively are out of Tx now and resigned to recruiting slow white guys w/ an excessive amount of consonants in their last name. They'll compete in the Big Ten long term w/ the other blue bloods in that league & get embarrassed in bowl games against the Pac12/SEC.
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I said then and will say now, ATM was definitely the biggest loss given where they're located. Regardless of how they struggled in the Big 12 that's a name program set up for the future better than Nebraska. If OU was still playing Nebraska every year that's one thing but when that died and when Nebraska collapsed, their appeal dropped significantly.
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The problem is depth, there aren't any more helmet schools to step in when OU/Tx are down. Perception eventually becomes reality over the long haul as it pertains to the effect on recruiting and the on field product. But when they are both up again which is more often than not things will be alright.
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So long as Texas & OU are excellent programs (which they'll be over the long-term that you referenced), the Big 12 will be a major player in college football. Slive isn't pairing up with them for no reason - he's not stupid.
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My comment about adding TCU was w/ respect to Louisville. I would have added Louisville & WVA. If Fox was responsible or whatever, I still view it as a mistake nonetheless.
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Sure. You can imagine how much Kansas fans wanted Louisville in the conference for obvious reasons.