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Originally Posted by mr. tegu

Who says the conspiracy is under wraps? The conspiracy, or should I say aspects of it, is out but the smearing process and ridicule is widespread which prevents acceptance by many.

Also, when people who do speak are threatened with their lives you will certainly be less likely to keep talking. Ask Bob Lazar.

Bob Lazar? The same guy who's been caught numerous times lying, and even arrested for various charges relating to selling radioactive materials? The same Bob Lazar who claims he was personally contacted by Zeta Reticulians and given a 1M year history of Earth? That Lazar? He doesn't seem all that trustworthy when concerning global government coverups.

For the propulsion of the studied vehicles, Bob Lazar claims that the atomic Element 115 served as a nuclear fuel. Element 115 (nicknamed 'Ununpentium' (Uup)) reportedly provided an energy source which would produce anti-gravity effects under proton bombardment along with antimatter for energy production, as the intense strong nuclear force field of Element 115's nucleus would be properly amplified the resulting large-scale gravitational effect would be a distortion of the surrounding space-time continuum that would, in effect, greatly shorten the distance and travel time to a charted destination.[5]

Lazar also claims that he was given introductory briefings describing the historical involvement by extraterrestrial beings with this planet for the past 1,000,000 years. The beings originate from the Zeta Reticuli 1 & 2 star system and are therefore referred to as Zeta Reticulians, popularly called 'Greys'.[6]

Lazar says he has degrees from the California Institute of Technology and Massachusetts Institute of Technology. In 1993, the Los Angeles Times looked into his background and found there was no evidence to support his claims.[1] Stanton Friedman was only able to verify that Lazar took electronics courses in the late 1970s at Pierce Junior College.[7] The Times did discover that in 1990 Lazar had pled guilty to felony pandering (he installed a computer system for a local brothel[8], declared bankruptcy and listed his occupation as self-employed photo processor on documents.[1] A 1991 Times article reported, Lazar was "on probation in Clark County, Nevada, on a pandering charge. His educational and professional background cannot be verified - a fact he attributes to government deletion of records."[9]

Although his stories have garnered some rather interesting fanfare and media attention, it is hard to determine what the truth really is. Some hold out for Bob's story, but the majority of others remain skeptical. Including Stanton Friedman, who looked into Lazar's claims and did his own investigating on the matter.[7] Another debunker is Dr. David L. Morgan. Morgan looked into all of Lazar's scientific claims and put down most of the ideas that Lazar had elaborated on in his description of the alien spacecraft, particularly its propulsion systems and use of Element 115. Morgan also went on to say, "After reading an account by Bob Lazar of the "physics"� of his Area 51 UFO propulsion system, my conclusion is this: Mr. Lazar presents a scenario which, if it is correct, violates a whole handful of currently accepted physical theories. That in and of itself does not necessarily mean that his scenario is impossible. But the presentation of the scenario by Lazar is troubling from a scientific standpoint. Mr. Lazar on many occasions demonstrates an obvious lack of understanding of current physical theories."[18]