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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho
I'd even probably vote for Clemens (though I don't quite buy him as best pitcher ever), though I don't think his career thrives in his 30s and into his 40s the way it did without juice.
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Perhaps not, but there's no way to know for sure how much they helped him. What I do know is that no pitcher has ever been as good for as long as he was. Maybe his peak wasn't the all-time greatest (though it was pretty close), but his longevity gives him the edge at the top for me.