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Old 08-12-2010, 04:30 PM   #5604
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What do you want me to say? You made (what I think is) a fairly absurd accusation. You provided zero evidence for your claim. Rather than fight/debate with you, I just said that we obviously saw different films.

I provided the same amount of "evidence" for my opinion that you did. But really, isn't the burden of proof on you?

My "because it's doesn't" response is just as valid as your "because it does" accusation. I did not get that message or picture or feeling or whatever from the film. Not at all. Not once at any time. You obviously did. I'm sure you can list all the instances you have for why you feel the way I do. And I'll disagree. And you'll tell me I'm inferior (and/or wrong) in some way, or that my response wasn't detailed enough or valid enough because of some whim or semantic twisting.

Ultimately, it doesn't matter. But I think it's inappropriate and irresponsible to just go around calling artists hateful and anti-semitic.

I'll say it again, we obviously saw different films.
It isn't absurd. Not at all. You've apparently never heard of the "wandering Jew" stereotype popularized by Nazi propaganda film: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Eternal_Jew
Not only is explicit mention made of Peter Sarsgaard's character as a Jew (with ostensibly no real impact on the plot) but specifically a wandering Jew. Sarsgaard's character is morally detestable - he lasciviously goes around and seduces proper young women and ruins them. He corrupts British girls and acts as a sort of social Svengali for them. He makes money in reprehensible ways: obtaining valuable works of art from dying or dead or elderly people, corrupting property values by manipulating both aspirant middle class blacks and the phenomenon of white flight, etc. He's always using this royal 'We' (which obviously refers to the Jewish people) to justify his behavior. There are plenty of examples that others have seen; one site review talks about the inability for Sarsgaard to be sexy in seduction, for example. Then, of course, there is the undeniably anti-Semetic headmistress of Mulligan's school. Mulligan tries to defend her Jew but is shot down with a line about Jesus being a Jew is a fiction. The film proceeds to justify that anti-Semetic screed by making Sarsgaard's character even less appealing that he already was; he is revealed to be cheating on his wife. Sarsgaard's character essentially goes through every terrible, racist stereotype against Jews that there is.

What you are doing right now is the equivalent of calling absurd the idea of a film that depicts black people as monkey-behaving, gang-raping, watermelon-eating, too-dumb-to-work-anything-except-a-cotton-field being a racist film.
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